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References for "Faith & Reason: A Workable View"

St. Gregory's Episcopal Church of Boca Raton has a rich history of discussion groups, especially on Sunday noontimes, Wednesday breakfast, and Wednesday evenings. This effort follows the tradition created by Debbie Self, Jack Dawson and Steve Bruenn at Sunday noontimes. This format is quite different as it will be on-line via e-mail and maybe soon a page in Wikipedia. Our name might change. At present it is www.InterfaithEngagement.com and/or www.InterfaithEngagement.net, but discussion is needed about melding that discourse following Ramadan with the traditions of other faith communities.


These notes were assembled by Carl House and are available at www.InterfaithEngagement.com. There is a short version at www.belovedcommunity.info/faith/carlhouse.htm We also have a Facebook page at www.InterfaithEngagement.net (which you can see if you have signed up for Facebook).
A yearning for reconciliation and peace has been growing for some of us as we see struggles on science vs. religion, fundamentalism & terrorism, and our dysfunctional national politics. These notes, meant to help that process, are mostly from "The Case for God" by Karen Armstrong (cfg) and "Becoming Enlightened" by His Holiness the Dalai Lama (HHLS). Sources are identified in parenthesis: "cfg" refers to pages in Armstrong's book. (updated 12/ 5/13 19:04)
  1. Armstrong traces the evolution of our consciousness from 30,000 BCE. She says "in most premodern cultures there were two recognized ways of thinking, speaking, and acquiring knowledge. The Greeks called them mythos and logos". (cfg p xi) Logos helps us function in the world (building tools and solving problems), but logos is less helpful in dealing with our humanness, grief, and mystery which mythos is better suited for.(cfg)
  2. Before the 17th Century the writers of our sacred books did not expect their work to be read explicitly. Their work was in the tradition of the Greek "mythos".(cfg)
  3. Mythos does not have to do with factual reality. It has to do with the ease with which we find words (ineffable). Armstrong gives importance to Apophatic theology which attempts to describe God by saying what He is "not" and relates this to mysticism. (cfg p 140)
  4. Faith, spirituality, or religion (whatever we wish to call it) was expected to be realized importantly thru ritual and "inner work". When ritual is absent, faith may fail (cfg p 188-9).
  5. In the 17th century logos started making very rapid advancement with the Scientific Revolution and new ideas in physics, astronomy, biology, human anatomy, chemistry, and other sciences.
  6. Our formal religions failed to creatively respond to advances in logos (science) beginning in the 17th century and thus have faced great challenge.
  7. Postmodernism:
  8. Certainty ?
  9. Islam
  10. Questions for continuing work
These seem to be important sources for our next work:


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Chapter 2: God 
Chapter 3: Reason 
Chapter 4: Faith 
Chapter 5: Silence 
Chapter 6: Faith & Reason 
Chapter 7: Science and Religion 
Chapter 8: Scientific Religion 
Chapter 9: Enlightenment 
Chapter 10: Atheism 
Chapter 11: Unknowing 
Chapter 12: Death of God ? 
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